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Surface Unsigned

Had enough of promoters who think Pay 2 Play in all forms is OK? Had enough of the way some promoters treat bands and us paying gig goers? Sick of battle of the bands crap, vote for this and that, forced ticket buys, want to tell us about the GOOD promoters? This all started on My Space until they started removing what we were saying...

Postby JohnDTraynor on Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:24 pm

Some more arithmetic:

Very kindly, Surface Unsigned publish the number of votes for each band at each gig on their website. Therefore, it is possible to work out almost precisely how much money is paid to Surface Unsigned (before their running costs are deducted).

Text votes income is the number of votes minus the ten percent for Oxjam (it doesn't take into account text votes made after the deadline)

Audience votes income is the number of vote points divided by five (audience votes carry a weighting of five) multiplied by six (£6 is the price of the ticket)

Assuming the audience members vote for the band from whom they bought a ticket, it is possible to know which bands achieved the 25 mimum in order to receive their deposit back. (Of course, some bands may have sold tickets to people who didn't turn up and so couldn't vote at the gig, so it isn't possible to be absolutely accurate with the number of bands who got the deposit back, nor is it possible to know the total number of tickets sold.)

From Surface's own website http://www.surfaceunsigned.co.uk/midlandsHomepage.html the totals for the first six gigs that took place at Flapper are as follows (I think at least one scheduled gig was cancelled due to snow)

Text votes: 897
Text votes income £897 - £89.70 = £803.30 (probably more due to votes placed after the deadline)
Oxjam income = £89.70

Audience votes = 3670
Tickets sales income = (3670/5) x 6 = at least £4404 (probably more due to some ticket buyers not turning up to vote)

Bands selling at least 25 tickets = at least 9 (possibly more due to some ticket buyers not turning up to vote)
Thirty-nine bands played, so thirty didn't reach the minimum
Deposits not returned = 30
Non-returned deposits income = 30x25 = £750

Total paid to bands is a pound for each ticket sold over 25.
Total paid to bands = £43

Therefore, final figures are

Income for Surface Unsigned = £5957.30

Income for Oxjam = £89.70

Income for bands = £43


That is for six gigs - there are due to be forty-two at Flapper and a similar number in Bristol and in London.

That's a lot money for Surface Unsigned. It must cost a thousand pounds to hire the Flapper!
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Postby Blackout on Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:13 pm

Post from some kid on ManchesterMusic forum - yes, the scumwagon's in town again.


we're on that list as playing on the 25th feb.

i personally knew about these kind of things but i had only just joind the band who diddent and had already sorted out the gig.

when we got there and they told us we couldent use our own gear, after wanting us to sell 50 tickets at 6 quid each for people to wach a 20 min set.... we just got back in the car and left without saying bye.

they genuinly are assholes. no one told us not to bring gear, so what are we spost to do when we show up with it! (im a little bitter about this because i had 1200 worth of cymbals stolen from me a few week ago and i paid a lot of money to replace them for the gigs we have booked)

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