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Suckered in to Surface Unsigned, then don’t bother us please.. PEDRO, PSYKE PROJECT, SERPENTONE
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From: D*****
Date: 02 Jul 2008, 00:13


Hello there ORG Records, JImmy here from D***** we are into semi finals of SURFACE UNSIGNED competition, last 42 out of 11000 applicants. 19th July @ Manchester Academy, hope you can come check us out, etc?? Please get in touch if interested in us.

thanks for you time.

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From: ORG RECORDS
Date: 03 Jul 2008

oh dear, we never ever ever take any notice of any band fool enough to enter those Surface Unsigned things - a sure sign that a band has no idea about what they're doing, a sure sign theat they're going to be well, how can we put this? "Not very good"... go read the old blogs on the Organ page or the no2pay2play page. And I hope you didn't have to buy tickets and all that crap! Last 42? All that tells us is you have mates who come along drink and pay, doesn't tell us a thing about your music...

If you want our attention send your music in, if you're fool enough to play these unsigned battle of the vote for us showcase 'casue there will be loads of A&R people there honest guv events then please don't bother sending anything in, we already know you're crap and haven't got a clue, we don't need to hear your music...



Work it out and wise up you bands, stop being suckered in to all this crap, it really is depressing

Anyway, I said I'd stop raging against the idiot machine... here's some musical things and a couple of reviews from last week's Organ - over at http://www.organart.com

ALBUM OF THE WEEK 2
THE PSYKE PROJECT – Apnea (Lifeforce) – Now this one is intense; intensely colourful and taking us all over the place with that boiling brooding heavy intensity that leads to outbursts of clever considered musical violence. Everything here is intense – the brutal noise, the brooding quiet, the stirring contradictions, the progressive texture and the calm before the next storm – this is excellent. We were expecting good – this really is excellent. The Psyke Project are from Copenhagen and this latest album is colossal. The album came out in Denmark last year, out everywhere else this very week. Great big churning slices of monolithic beauty, tense violent creativity and the heaviest of heavy mountain moving metal. Think Neurosis, shades of the earlier days of Isis, a touch of Will Haven and just when you think you have it worked out a rather accessible slice of Radiohead progression in the shape of the last eight minute track Not In My Time – well far easier on the ear than Radiohead actually, until things slowly boil up and you're ready for another eruption – will it come? Not In My Name is massive. The Psyke Project have all the necessary epic ambition now, they have everything to match that ambition, all the intense light and shade - all the cathartic beauty and so so much more. This is a highly recommended album, a truly progressive album, a different album - scorching your ground, forget your resistance, let them toy with your neurosis – www.thepsykeproject.com or www.myspace.com/thepsykeproject or www.lifeforcerecords.com

ALBUM OF THE WEEK 3
PEDRO – You, Me & Everyone (Mush) – Well this is unique as well, so much inspiring new music around right now, these are rich times. Free-jazz based electronica and all kinds of colour and dance and Pedro pushing himself and your idea of what he's been about so far. Kind of electric eclectic folk/world flavoured journeys that are very much pushing in to the future – sublime electronic organic and the broadening of horizons, slices of glowing instrumental hip-hop and clever compositional structure – real avantness and experiments that never lose focus, a crafted sound, intelligent rewarding gliding glowing warmth from deepest London. Jazzy, glitchy, flowing, intriguing, rewarding, delightful – different! Pedro is alter ego of beatsmith/producer James Rutledge and yeah yeah, I know we tell you to check out a million things every week but you really really really should make an effort to check out this one. Bold, bright, instrumental music that really is something assertively new, hyper-different and uniquely good – hope is a happiness – brilliant. Find out more via www.dirtyloop.com or www.pedromusic.net

ALSO CHECK OUT
SERPENTONE – Spiraling (self release) – A healthy bit of defiantly classic scratchy 90's North American home-made punk rock reality waiting for you here – a three piece led by the raw emotion and powerful voice of one Erika Meyer, Serpentone are a powerful Babies In Toyland flavoured angry angsty set of adventures, statements, observations and explorations. Relationships, gender politics, S&M hints, Minivan moms – Erika in on the front cover, bent over her guitar, lost in a frail of hair, the cover photo gives you more than a healthy clue. They're from Portland Oregon and they damn well sound like it. Raw throated do-not-mess-with-me goodness – some of it is very obvious and maybe even a little naive, that's kind of good though, that honesty is why this album works and bites and demands your ears so much more than the new Free Kitten album – real pearls that'll tie you up. Dirty old school sound, raw grunge and riot grrl flavoured bite, the real honest deal, you can't fake a sound like this, you can't fake lo-fi raw energy – it either happens naturally or it sounds wrong. Spiraling is a very real, very honest, very direct album, a naked album and no one's going to put her in a line and tell her what to do, no swallowing sugar coated lies – even when she rather convincingly reaching deep inside and tells us she's a little crazy and messed up - we love it when things are good. Would you? Serpentone blister, Serpentone bite, the band are good, raw live sound and basic production but the band carry it all – yep, this is basic striped down punk rock and there ready for yer, go grab it – www.serpentone.com

It's getting annoying now isn't it?

We've booked a tour for November for 2 bands, who i won't name, but by reading the right books, researching the right places on the net and actually contacting the venues, guess what? The gigs are there!

The Organ is right. All you need is out there, you just need to look.
If you want someone to do it for you, bottom line is, it'll cost you, so why pay someone else and get ripped off?

Personally I think that if you don't get of your own arse, it's not going to happen. It doesn't matter how many 'friends' you added on a 'train' or whatever they call it, no one is going to vote for your band to play a gig that they themselves have been sucked into wanting to play.

Bonjovi? Feeder? the grand opening of moonbase alpha? You've more chance of embarrasing yourself on X Factor!

For god sake, do it yourself. Get a couple of bands together and get out there, unless of course you don't think anyone would come to see you, and if that's the case perhaps you should ask yourself why you're actually bothering.


Posted by Seven Records on 03 Jul 2008, 08:09
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NO 2 PAY 2 PLAY!

yes, it is getting annoying, there's always some sucker willing to keep these morally corrupt cowboys in profit... Until EVERYONE says no it won't go away

Posted by NO 2 PAY 2 PLAY! on 03 Jul 2008, 10:21
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★Hilda★

It may have to wait until April 1st next year but I reckon you should advertise an Organ 'Showcase' festival. 23 bands in ONE evening!!!! Promises of A&R from 'major' labels, judging by the loudest cheers from the crowd on the night using the Seanoloudometer and winner will get a 'record deal'.

All the bands have to do is sell 25 tickets at £6 each and any sales over that they will get a whopping £2 per ticket for themselves.
Obviously the more fans you get in the LOUDER your cheers!!!!!

Let's see how many stupid bands apply.... FFS!!!!!

Hilda x

Posted by ★Hilda★ on 04 Jul 2008, 04:35
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ORGAN

Why wait until April 1st, so many dumb bands around willing to fall for anything, we'll do it next month... I'd want a cut of te bar takings as well though, let the band who's fans drink most win of course, won't bother listening to the music, just count the numbers - if you bands can't work out how you're being suckered then serves you all right...

Posted by ORGAN on 04 Jul 2008, 04:41
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Duffle

Yeah crap!! you bunch of losers, if you wonder why bands like us end up doing stuff like a competition it's because of tossers like you, send you a polite message and you think you can make some joke out of us!! PATHETIC.


Why not just be okay with people you smug creeps! ha ha bet your just some sad bloke sat in his bedroom making £120 a week, talking trash about the clash and joe strummer and how you were in a band once and nearly made it, ha ha, is that why you are so bitter and twisted??

I spend my time trying to get gigs for my band, help, advice, etc and then get some smarmy git like you slating us just cause were in a competition is just a joke!!

yes pay to play is a load of bollox and i agree with you on that fully, just can't see why you had to be such a cocky shit about it all???

ppppffffffffhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by Duffle on 04 Jul 2008, 04:35
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ORGAN

Well now Duffle, did you really mean to shoot yourselves in both feet? We didn't actually mention you by name in that blog did we? I know you've been firing off amusing pathetic angry e.mails ever since, but I didn't slate you directly, I deliberately left your name out of it and just put your mail there with the band name removed. You named yourselves by joining in here, and you do allow people to hear and allow me to prove my point now though don't you? If you are one of the best bands in that competition I dread to think what the others sound like! Go one people, click on the link, go listen and see how awful the musical standards with these competitions are - they let anyone in who'll bring the numbers and sell the tickets, they're laughing as they count the money

And yes, we are going to keep on yelling and pointing out to you bands that you should not allow yourselves to be exploited by the people who put these types of events on. IT ANGERS ME TO SEE THAT After all we've said and done over the last few months you clueless bands who still insist on spaming us asking us to come to battle of the band events and vote for this and check out that - worse that that you still keep on paying to play and you still insist on falling for these forced ticket buy gigs and while you do YOU ARE PART OF THE UGLY PROBLEM.

None of you ever bother to look at the my Space pages you spam do you - why dont you ever look at people's pages before you spam you crap at said pages. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out not to bother spaming us with unsigned battle of the band competition crap, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out you're a sucker to enter them in the first place

CAN ANYONE NAME ME ONE DECENT BAND WHO EVER GOT ANYWHERE IN TERMS OF A PROFESSIONAL MUSIC CAREER AS A RESULT OF ANY OF THESE COMPETITIONS?

Duffle you should actually try listening to some of the help and advise you say you are looking for sometime, it isn't just me telling you - go read all the stuff on the www.myspace.com/no2pay2play page - go read what others are saying on other blogs and comments here

And if you don't like our attitude or label (as you've pointed out several times in your other insult packed e.mails) then why the hell were you asking us to come to the gig in the first place? WISE UP YOU BANDS! THERE'S ONLY SO MANY TIME WE CAN POLITELY SAY IT, WE'RE GETTING ANGRY WITH YOU BANDS WHO FALL FOR THIS CRAP NOW

As for The Clash, always thought they were an overated pile of averageness.

Posted by ORGAN on 04 Jul 2008, 05:06
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ORGAN

Well now Duffle, did you really mean to shoot yourselves in both feet? We didn't actually mention you by name in that blog did we? I know you've been firing off amusing pathetic angry e.mails ever since, but I didn't slate you directly, I deliberately left your name out of it and just put your mail there with the band name removed. You named yourselves by joining in here, and you do allow people to hear and allow me to prove my point now though don't you? If you are one of the best bands in that competition I dread to think what the others sound like! Go one people, click on the link, go listen and see how awful the musical standards with these competitions are - they let anyone in who'll bring the numbers and sell the tickets, they're laughing as they count the money

And yes, we are going to keep on yelling and pointing out to you bands that you should not allow yourselves to be exploited by the people who put these types of events on. IT ANGERS ME TO SEE THAT After all we've said and done over the last few months you clueless bands who still insist on spaming us asking us to come to battle of the band events and vote for this and check out that - worse that that you still keep on paying to play and you still insist on falling for these forced ticket buy gigs and while you do YOU ARE PART OF THE UGLY PROBLEM.

None of you ever bother to look at the my Space pages you spam do you - why dont you ever look at people's pages before you spam you crap at said pages. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out not to bother spaming us with unsigned battle of the band competition crap, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out you're a sucker to enter them in the first place

CAN ANYONE NAME ME ONE DECENT BAND WHO EVER GOT ANYWHERE IN TERMS OF A PROFESSIONAL MUSIC CAREER AS A RESULT OF ANY OF THESE COMPETITIONS?

Duffle you should actually try listening to some of the help and advise you say you are looking for sometime, it isn't just me telling you - go read all the stuff on the www.myspace.com/no2pay2play page - go read what others are saying on other blogs and comments here

And if you don't like our attitude or label (as you've pointed out several times in your other insult packed e.mails) then why the hell were you asking us to come to the gig in the first place? WISE UP YOU BANDS! THERE'S ONLY SO MANY TIMES WE CAN POLITELY SAY IT, WE'RE GETTING ANGRY WITH YOU BANDS WHO FALL FOR THIS CRAP NOW

As for The Clash, always thought they were an overated pile of averageness.

Posted by ORGAN on 04 Jul 2008, 05:06
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